Buying a Holland 25

[waveskimmer]

Hi all, we're in the process of purchasing a Holland 25 in Mornington.

A couple of questions:

1. Superficial scratches on the hull above the waterline - do they represent an issue with regard to integrity of the hull and what's the best way to repair them?

2. What deck gear was originally on the bow to handle mooring lines? What's the best way to attach a new fitting to prevent scuffing from the mooring lines?

3.  Any other key things to look for?

The diesel has had a major service in the last 12 months or so, so that should be good.

Can I find rigging tips on this site?

This boat has a keel stepped mast, which I believe is a good thing.

I'm interested in sailing single-handed and the boat's set up for that with all the sheets coming back to the thingypit.  How do you go about getting off and probably more importantly, back on the mooring without taking out the rest of the Mornington fleet.  I don't want to end up on YouTube as the Mayhem Sailor from Mornington :-). Help me guys.

Thanks Graham

ps this is a great site for info on the Holland 25s. Nice work Colin

[Colin Admin]

You'll notice that ProBoards will change C0ckpit to Thingypit - can't help that.

There were many variations on equipment riggings over the years. You are best to post pics for constructive comments.

[Mystique R333]

Welcome waveskimmer. You'll probably get some responses over time as most are not actively monitoring threads until they post there.

In response to questions:
1. Superficial scratches on the hull above the waterline - do they represent an issue with regard to integrity of the hull and what's the best way to repair them?
Not a problem. Best to fill and paint topsides when you want to, have funds, have sailed her a bit and found any other repairs needed. Shouldn't be a problem though as glass quite thick.

2. What deck gear was originally on the bow to handle mooring lines? What's the best way to attach a new fitting to prevent scuffing from the mooring lines?
Can't tell without pictures. Does your boat have an anchor locker, if so feel around inside there? There is a very strong timber beam glassed in from nose to hatch that mooring bits can be bolted to.

3. Any other key things to look for?
What type/brand motor are you running? Be careful of growth on prop as may be folding and one or more blades (usually two) may be stuck. If so, running on only one blade can bend your shaft.

Other than that, just usual old yacht problems of loose or broken through hull fittings hoses and especially hose clamps need checking and possibly replacing.
Have you had a survey done? They are often worth it for knowing state of hull, fittings, motor, rigg, etc and may be needed for insurance too.
For insurance, check out Youi as they don't require a survey every few years like others do and were cheaper for me. Insurance for racing has to be specified though, so be wary if going to go Club racing.

Best of luck and post some pics when you can.

[waveskimmer]

Thanks Chris. Appreciate the insurance tip. I'll check it out.

The diesel is a Yanmar and has been serviced annually and was rebuilt in 2011.

It does have a 2 blade folding prop. That's a good tip re bending the shaft.

New anti-foul was done 12-15 months ago.

Has 2 mains - cruising and racing
Headsails - 1 - 4
Spinnaker - 1

[twoheadstas]

Wave Skimmer, I checked out that boat at the weekend. Was pretty good, but I thought overpriced when compared to one available in Tassie, which we purchased yesterday. Being in Tassie, that makes delivery easier for us, if you're in Melbourne the Mornington one would be easier for you.

Certainly this is much better than the yellow RMYC one, but I think that could be had at a very cheap price if you were prepared to gamble on it a bit. Tried to contact the owner of the Sandy one too, but he wouldn't answer phone calls, messages or texts, so not sure how badly he wants to sell it - in fact 5 days later still no response. This is a plus 4, but has transom mounted outboard which I wouldn't be keen on

cheers

Two Haeds

[waveskimmer]

Hi Two Heads (always better than one)

I checked out the Sandringham Holland and whilst the price is low, it hasn't been touched for about 18 months and needs quite a bit of work and the inventory isn't anywhere near as good as Lightfoot's. It's history is a bit chequered over the last 10 years or so. I wasn't keen on the outboard either. I didn't realise it was a +4

I live in Mornington so Lightfoot is on my doorstep; literally, so it's a good buy from my perspective.

If you're looking at insuring your boat, give Youi a try. I got $20K cover for $388. $10K for the hull and motor and $10K for the above deck equipment.

We're looking forward to taking possession and getting some wind in the sales.

All the best with yours.

Graham

[Mystique R333]

Glad my advice on Youi insurance was of assistance. I'm not involved but trying to get insurance on our old boats can be difficult, complex and expensive.

Cheers to all.

[twoheadstas]

Based on this info, we also went to Youi, and got similar deal to Waveskimmer, and no requirement for a survey. Hope they're good if there's ever a claim to be made....

Interesting they weren't interesting details of what the design was or anything...